john: john: what about taxes? >> we should just do away with taxes altogether and. john: we hear this but it's not gone. people like federal rules. >> one of the things that we know is that states without an income tax be so much better economically. we have a higher rate of entrepreneurship, they have higher job growth, higher personal income growth. in states where we are seeing this, where they have experimented with it, they are doing better. last week for new governors said they will make a push to eliminate their state income tax and i think we will see a lot more states compete against each other to attract businesses and economic development in a way. john: thank you, starlee rhoades and mark meckler. coming up on obama part two. the fight over immigration and illegal immigration in the president's own words or he will do words come back to haunt him? >> our federal debt has increased from 3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. and yes, i said trillion >> hill the goals sneaking to america, take our jobs, a commit crimes, going welfare. no. most honest, hard-working